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Re: [PATCH] Document echo \c behaviour

Phil Pennock wrote on Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 09:39:31 +0000:
> On 2017-01-10 at 03:52 +0000, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> > Thanks; I pushed the first hunk.  I didn't push the second one because
> > I don't think it's required.  If you disagree then make your case ;-).
> The behaviour is bug-ass crazy nuts and needs justification.  Every
> other escape sequence is a character which is inserted; \c was always
> a special case for "suppress the following newline", but "truncate
> _everything_ else" from an _escape_ sequence is ... face-palm worthy.
> It warrants explanation as to why it's so counter-intuitive.

In that case, I would word it differently; for example:

diff --git a/Doc/Zsh/builtins.yo b/Doc/Zsh/builtins.yo
index af336ef..091bd49 100644
--- a/Doc/Zsh/builtins.yo
+++ b/Doc/Zsh/builtins.yo
@@ -467,6 +467,9 @@ sitem(tt(\u)var(NNNN))(unicode character code in hexadecimal)
 sitem(tt(\U)var(NNNNNNNN))(unicode character code in hexadecimal)
+Note that tt(\c), unlike all other escapes, discards all following characters
+as well.
 pindex(BSD_ECHO, use of)
 The tt(-E) flag, or the tt(BSD_ECHO) option, can be used to disable
 these escape sequences.  In the latter case, tt(-e) flag can be used to

However, I still don't think repetition is needed.  The purpose of the
manual is to document the shell's behaviour, and the sitem() line on
master acheives that.  It's not as if people are going to run into this
behaviour unexpectedly; nobody has ever written
    c=${"${:-abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz}"[RANDOM % 26]}
    eval "echo \"$s\"" | grep -q bar
    assert($? == 0)
in production code. ;-)

Let's see what others think.

> > P.S. Overly-literal-reading corner: doesn't "All characters following...
> > will be ignored" mean that «echo 'foo\cbar' 'baz' 'qux'» should be
> > equivalent to «echo 'foo\cbar' '' ''»?  I.e., print «foo» followed by
> > two trailing spaces?
> Sounds right.

For comparison, the 'printf' spec has plugged this hole:

            * '\c' , which shall not be written and shall cause printf to
              ignore any remaining characters in the string operand containing
              it, any remaining string operands, and any additional characters
              in the format operand

> Take it up with the Austin Group.  I believe that Bart is
> masochistic enough to pay attention in those arenas and might be willing
> to raise it as a spec bug.
> (I tried following AG for a while, and ran away)




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