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Re: new SourceForge terms

On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 05:00:04PM +0000, Zefram wrote:
>SourceForge are changing their terms and privacy policy.  As far as I
>can see, the substantive changes are:
>1. They can henceforth change the terms without notice, just by posting
>   the new terms on the website.  (Currently they are obliged to give
>   15 days notice by email, a period that we are currently in for this
>   change.)
>2. They can henceforth remove user accounts without giving a reason.
>   (Currently they are obliged to have a reason, though the set of
>   acceptable reasons is open-ended.)
>3. They're no longer obliged to make the contents of a deleted account
>   available to its owner.  (There was previously a "reasonable effort"
>   clause to that effect.)
>4. They're no longer obliged to provide notice of changes to the privacy
>   policy, unless the changes are "substantive".  (Currently they are
>   obliged to provide notice of any change.)
>5. The privacy policy is acquiring a disclaimer that amounts to "this
>   is not true".  It actually disclaims the entire privacy policy.
>Do we want to keep zsh hosted at SourceForge?  For me personally, item 1
>alone is enough to want to remove my account.  Item 5 also seems pretty
>serious, and 2-4 are dangerous.

FWIW, I'd be willing to host zsh on sources.redhat.com.  As one of the
site administrators, I can provide web space, ftp space, cvs access, and
mailing lists.

I can also redirect zsh.org to sources.redhat.com, if required.

It would be a privilege to be able to be able provide some service in
exchange for all of the happy years that I've been using zsh.

FWIW, we don't have anything like the privacy policy that you mention able
and I don't anticipate that we ever will.  I can't make any guarantees,
of course, but I'd be pretty surprised if anything like that came
to pass.


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