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Re: setopt interactivecomments
On 04/17/2014 12:37 PM, Bart Schaefer wrote:
Yup. There's that problem too. This is by no means a simple issue and
all perils considered, I quite
Well, *my* adoption of Linux is continually frustrated by exactly the
opposite thinking, to wit, that every new release of something has to
be based on the bloodiest edge and can disregard whatever came before.
understand that things default to your way of thinking.
I hate that sort of thing too. It's a question of separating the wheat
from the chafe tho,
is it not? On the one hand we have the kiddies with their half cooked
'new' versions of
Jellymaker changing things willy-nilly, OTOH we have, in my opinion, a
conservative view with the shells. Excesses in one direction are not a
good reason to
Oh, look, a new version of jellymaker is out -- but the API is entirely
different, so I'll have to try to find new versions of everything that
uses it, and it requires the latest libsnozzberry which also has a new
API, so I'll also have to try to replace everything else that depends
on *that*, etc. etc. etc.
Thanks, but no.
avoid sober changes in the other direction.
Sure, efforts in this direction are dangerous, and I'd not suggest (even
with my lack of
experience) that ALL of *anything* be turned on by default, but sheesh,
can't we have
the backspace key by default? I'm sure there must be dozens of 'no risk'
virtually everyone wants and that come with no gottchas. Me, I'm still
by all the options that I don't even know what 90% of them do, and I'm
out on good stuff that I don't even know exists. If there was an option
of having a
} It was longstanding usage that we write with goose quill on parchment.
} Let's forget about longstanding usage, break with all tradition, and
} have zsh, as she comes out of the box, show folks what she can do.
We [*] did try that back in around, oh, 1996 IIRC. It was a mess. It
turns out that if turn on ALL the cool features by default, the result
is even more confusing than having your backspace key not work.
more souped up install, it might be educational to play with.
What did eventually happen after the mess was cleaned up is that the
zsh-newuser-install system got created. It could use an update, but
is intended to walk you through enabling the stuff that you're most
likely to want.
Sounds exactly right. I seem to have missed it.
Well, sanity matters. I take a rather conservative view on most things
myself, but at the
same time, I think a few things are now so bedrock standard that we can
safely part with
the traditions of 20 years ago on some issues. What, really, would break
if the backspace
was enabled by default? What would break if interactive comments was on
by default? Who
[*] I use the term "we" loosely because I personally quit working on zsh
for a couple of years until sanity had been restored.
would complain? Does anyone on Earth really not want command recall?
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