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Re: Official plugin manager?

On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 12:04, Daniel Shahaf <d.s@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> http://xyproblem.info/
> "Write an official plugin manager" is a solution.  You have identified
> several problems in your mail, so let's talk about those problems and
> consider all possible solutions to them (not only the one that you
> hardcoded into the subject line of this thread).

Okay. I think that the one interesting point was the 3rd one. I think
that it harms Zshell's picture out there by making the following
thinking common: that you cannot use Zsh without loading a bloated
framework like Oh My Zsh.

By providing a compact p-m out of the box this would have been pretty
much or fully solved: the user could load a decent theme which would
also do a few needed setopts, load a syntax highlighting plugin
directly without the framework or load just the bits of the framework
that he chooses to (this one more as a transition feature than an
important one). This way the user would learn that he doesn't need to
put large portions of initialization scripts into Zsh, but instead
load the desired solutions with out of the box Zsh features.

I think that this could lead to a significant decline in OMZ
popularity because blog authors could share decent zshrcs which would
also include the other needed setopts and zstyles, etc. Right now what
they are limited to is "install Oh My Zsh and add X to the plugins=(
... ) array".

I honestly cannot come up with a different solution to this problem
than the official, compact plugin manager.

Sebastian Gniazdowski
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