RE: Re: The request of words matter updated

[zeurkous@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, zeurkous@xxxxxxxx]

Haai,

On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 20:54:46 +0000, "Daniel Shahaf" <d.s@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> -1 on the patch because I don't believe people who disagree with the
> change feel comfortable saying so publicly.

*nods*

So me'll speak up: me's for keeping the current terminology, for the
following reasons--

 0) Me certainly hopes that no-one imagines an actual {master,slave}
    relationship when the words are applied to ptys, hdds, or w/ever. To 
    the degree that they do: they're insufficiently distinguishing
    technical shorthand from unfortunate tedencies in human history
    (and, to a degree, sadly not limited to history).

 1) The terms are entrenched and replacing them generates confusion,
    churn in declarations, etc.

 2) There are no plausible alternatives as far as me can see. The
    proposed {owner,subsidiary} -- and similar -- terms again imply a
    relationship of personal and economic exploitation (just this time
    covered with a mildly fuzzy blanket).

    The politically correct interface terms, {primary,secondary}, imply
    that the limit of the sequence is not 1, which is IMO not helpful
    here either.

    If anything, me'd opt for {dom,sub}, but apart from it probably
    being just as little politically acceptable, that creates confusion
    with existing technical terms (although such confusion is always, to
    a degree, unavoidable).

 3) We have better ways to spend our time. Me probably wouldn't have
    responded if me hadn't just come out of the shower ;)

HTH,

        --zeurkous. 

P.S., OT: Me's been trying to migrate me list membership to me new
          addy, <zeurkous@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>. The confirmation message
          never arrived and me attempt to contact the maintainer
          resulted in silence. Can the maintainer please privately
          contact me to sort this out? TIA :)

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